Do you believe in Miracles?
Interview with Benjamin Creme
British author and editor of Share International magazine discusses
UFOs, crop circles, crosses of light, and other miraculous phenomena.
ML: The question “Do you believe in miracles?”
was the title of a recent cover story in Life magazine which
acknowledged the thousands of unexplained or miraculous phenomena that
have been occurring world-wide. Other sources, such as Time magazine
and the Washington Post, have also reported on such phenomena as, of
course, has Share International. To list a few of these unexplained
events: we have had reports of visions or personal experiences of the
Christ; visions of the Virgin Mary; weeping and bleeding statues of
the Virgin Mary; crosses of light suddenly appearing in people’s
windows; healing water discovered in Mexico and elsewhere; reports of
a mysterious hitchhiker who appears in people’s cars and says the
Christ is in the world and then disappears; an increase in UFO
sightings; crop circle formations appearing in farm fields around the
world; and so on. Speaking generally, should people be taking such
reports seriously, or can most of them be written off as the product
of people’s imagination, as hoaxes, or as events which could be
BC: I have no doubt that there are some hoaxes of crop circles,
certainly in England. But the vast majority of the various phenomena
you have described should be taken very seriously indeed. These events
are occurring on a world-wide scale, and are part of the signs which
people expect and look for in connection with the reappearance of the
ML: You see these as signs of the reappearance of the Christ?
BC: Yes, indeed. They are signs that we have come to the end of one
era and the beginning of a new one, and that the Christ has returned
to the world to inaugurate this new cycle. These signs are given to
uphold people’s faith and hope in the future and in a spiritual basis
to life, to keep them aware that we are in a world which is constantly
changing, and that the days of miracles are not over. The miracles of
the Bible, for example, and also of earlier times, are being repeated
now daily, almost hourly, across the world. These events add up to
very definite evidence to humanity that the time is nigh for the
appearance of the Christ openly in the world.
ML: How can you speak with such conviction on these matters?
BC: I was contacted by one of the disciples of the Christ in January
1959, and soon afterwards was given, by Maitreya Himself, the task of
preparing the way for Him. I have been doing this for nearly 20 years
now. My role is to create a climate of hope and expectancy for the
return of the Christ, so that He can enter our lives without
infringing our free will.
ML: You were contacted initially by a disciple of the Christ, and
then by Maitreya Himself?
BC: One of the Masters of Wisdom, who lives in the Himalayas,
contacted me, first through another disciple and then directly. He has
trained and prepared me for the work I have been doing to prepare the
way for His Master, the Master of all the Masters, the one we in the
West know as the Christ.
ML: I would like to ask you specifically about some of the various
phenomena that have been reported. There have been reports that people
have had visions or personal experiences of the Christ. In fact, a counsellor in Minneapolis, Minnesota, named G. Scott Sparrow, has
written a book called Witness to His Return in which he interviewed a
number of people who said that they have had personal encounters with
the Christ. Can you comment on such reports?
BC: Certainly I would accept this. These experiences are part of the
manifestations surrounding His return. Maitreya appears to people in
three ways. Many people recount having had a vivid and powerful dream,
usually associated with some great spiritual, uplifting experience, in
which they feel they have seen the Christ. That is the most common way
in which He makes Himself known to humanity. Another, less common, way
is to give people visions. These experiences are waking visions, not
solid physical presences. People see or experience the Christ as light
or a kind of transparent form. Their accounts vary as to how He
appears. That is the second mode of Maitreya’s contact with people.
There are also direct physical appearances in which He appears to
people individually, and in groups, all over the world. I know of many
people who have experienced Maitreya in this way.
Share International has published several photographs of the Christ,
the Lord Maitreya, as He appeared suddenly ‘out of the blue’ in
Nairobi, Kenya, on the 11 June 1988 before 6,000 people. The crowd
instantly recognized him as the Christ and called Him by that name. He
talked to them in their own language, Swahili, for 10 or 15 minutes,
and then disappeared as amazingly as He had come, leaving in the
vicinity of where He had stood some 30 or 40 people completely cured
of all their ailments. Photographs show Him dressed in what looks like
Arab costume, pure white with a blue headband and carrying a fly whisk
in one hand. Standing beside Him is the woman who normally runs these
regular healing gatherings, Mary Akatsa. These photographs appeared on
CNN, the BBC, and went out over the wire services throughout the
ML: Has He appeared since then?
BC: He has appeared physically, to my knowledge, to very large groups
in Mexico, Russia and the former Soviet Union, throughout Europe, in
the US, the Middle East, North Africa, India and Pakistan. At many of
these places He has left behind miracle healing waters — either
transforming existing springs or wells, or creating new ones. The
best-known of these, so far, is in Tlacote, Mexico, about two hours
drive out of Mexico City. The water there is curing thousands of
people of all types of ailments, including AIDS and cancer. Another
source has been discovered near Düsseldorf, Germany, one of the towns
where Maitreya appeared, and outside New Delhi, India.
ML: Have the media reported on any of these appearances?
BC: There were some media present at some of these gatherings, but the
appearances were all before fundamentalist groups of one kind or
another: Catholic in Mexico; Lutheran or Protestant in Germany; in
Switzerland, Calvinistic; in Russia and the Eastern European
countries, the Russian Orthodox or Greek Orthodox Christian
communities; and fundamentalist Moslem, Hindu, and Jewish groups in
the Middle East, North Africa, India, and Pakistan.
These are groups from whom He would expect the greatest opposition
when He declares Himself openly to the world. Fundamentalist groups
are locked into their own beliefs about the appearance of the Christ,
the Messiah, Krishna, the Imam Mahdi or Maitreya Buddha, and have set
ideas which His presence would find difficult to disturb. These are
people whom He has, in my words, been ‘softening up’ in these
appearances. Maitreya is giving them a tremendous blessing appearing
to them miraculously, talking to them in their own language, and then
disappearing. This has given them a new experience of the return of
their long awaited Teacher. I think Maitreya hopes to broaden their
minds and make them more open to the fact of His return now, and not
at the end of the world.
ML: At some point will somebody come forward and say that they have
experienced this? Is that what He hopes will occur?
BC: That is part of it. The main goal is ‘softening up’ the
fundamentalists. But as these visitations to different groups continue
— and there have been a great many of them now: well over 10,000
people, not counting the 6,000 in Nairobi in 1988, have experienced
the Christ — this extraordinary experience cannot but change their
whole view of things, and when they do talk about it, the media will
eventually take note. The discovery of the healing waters which He has
created in connection with most of these appearances will reinforce
the fact of His presence there, and bring media to investigate this
(My recent information is that there have been newspaper reports of
some of these appearances: two of Christian, five of Muslim, three of
Hindu and four of Sikh communities)
ML: We have also had reports of visions of the Virgin Mary and weeping
statues as well. Are these reports to be believed?
BC: Most of them, yes. They are occurring world-wide and in enormous
numbers. The visions of the Virgin Mary are created as thought-forms
by the Master who was the Madonna, the mother of Jesus, 2,000 years
ago. She is a disciple of Maitreya, and now a very advanced Master
indeed. This Master creates these visions of the Madonna which are
always seen by more than one person.
There are also visions created by the fervent aspiration and desire of
people, perhaps afraid of world events, who are looking for some
reassurance and security. They create for themselves visions of the
Madonna which are purely astral and have nothing to do with that
Master at all. These are seen only by the individual concerned, the
one who has created them. These I discount, but even they are part of
the process by which the thought-form of the return of the Christ is
given expression. The very fact that so many are occurring in this way
is a sign that the time is now ripe for the presence of the Christ.
But the visions seen by more than one person, the weeping statues, the
moving statues, the statues which bleed real blood, and so on, are
created by the Master who was the mother of Jesus.
ML: And they are a sign of the Christ’s return?
BC: They are a sign not only of the Christ’s return, but also of the
group of which the Christ is the head, which includes Jesus Himself.
The Master Jesus, as He is known in the Hierarchy of Masters, has been
living in the outskirts of Rome since 1989. He is one of the first
group of Masters to come into the world with the Christ.
The Christ and Jesus are not the same individual. The Lord Maitreya
embodies, in His own Being, what we call the Christ Principle, the
Christ Consciousness, the second aspect of the Christian trinity, the
energy of love. He overshadowed and worked through His disciple Jesus
for three years, from the baptism to the crucifixion. For these three
years, the disciple Jesus became Jesus the Christ or Messiah. Nearly
600 years earlier, the Buddha overshadowed His disciple, the Prince
Gautama, who, at age 29, became Gautama Buddha. This is the age-old
way for the appearance of the Teacher in the world, which is a cyclic
event. What we are witnessing today is the return, according to cyclic
law, of the Teacher, this time in His own full physical presence, not
overshadowing a disciple as has been the case up until now.
ML: People in southern California and elsewhere around the world have
reported crosses of light appearing in their windows. How is that
BC: They first appeared in El Monte, California, a part of Los
Angeles, in May 1988. In April of that year, my Master said that very
soon Maitreya would create so many crosses of light around the world
that people would not be able to ignore them. No one would know where
they come from, or how they came about. There are now 20 or 30 such
crosses in the El Monte area. They have also appeared in various parts
of the world. I received a letter recently from a woman in New Jersey
who had a cross appear miraculously in her apartment window.
The crosses appear suddenly; they were not there previously. They are
‘activated by Maitreya, and have a great effect on the people around
them. They draw thousands of people to see them and some people have
extraordinary healing and spiritual experiences. The whole society in
El Monte has been transformed, both individually and as a community,
since the first appearance of a cross of light in the bathroom window
of a Hispanic family there.
The padre of the local church suggested that, because there were so
many people coming to see the cross, it would be better if they took
the glass out of the bathroom and put it in the church. The nice
people in the house agreed. The glass was removed from their bathroom
window and put in the church; the cross promptly disappeared. Nothing
they tried could bring the cross back. Reluctantly, the padre allowed
the glass to be put back in the house of the poor Hispanic people. The
cross immediately reappeared on the glass.
ML: It is interesting that the crosses appeared in a low-income
community in southern California. Is there any significance to that?
BC: The Christ has said: “Look for Me in the dark places where hunger
and strife abound”. “Know Me as the brother of the poor, the rejected
of the world.” (From Message No 128). It is as a spokesperson for the
poor and dispossessed that He comes. There are some 1,200 million
people living in conditions of official, absolute poverty, which means
they have an income of less than US$100 per year. Half of these have
nothing at all, and a large proportion of them, many millions, are
literally starving to death — in a world with a huge surplus of food
per capita. It is because Maitreya can no longer stand aside and watch
what He calls “this blasphemy”, “this slaughter”, “this crime” of
starvation in the midst of plenty that He has now returned to the
ML: Could you comment on increased UFO sightings and the appearance of
crop circles that have been reported?
BC: Aside from the few hoaxes, the crop circle patterns are certainly
real, but not directly connected with Maitreya. They are created by
our brothers of the nearest planets, Mars and Venus. The crop circles
have appeared all over the world. We have had hundreds of them in
England, and they have appeared in Canada, the US, across Europe,
Japan and elsewhere. The crop circle patterns are created by the space
vehicles that we call UFOs. They are part of a process of energization
of the Earth, and are duplicating on the physical plane many of the
vortices of the network of magnetic energy which surrounds the Earth.
These formations will become ‘batteries of energy’ for humanity in
connection with a new energy source, part of the science of light
which lies just ahead for humanity.
ML: In short, the crop formations are a positive phenomenon?
BC: Absolutely positive. They could not be of greater benefit to the
ML: Where do you see all these phenomena leading?
BC: These events will culminate in the open declaration before the
world by the Christ that He is in the world, and that He is the World
Teacher for all groups, religious and non-religious alike. This is not
simply a religious manifestation. It is a spiritual manifestation.
Maitreya is an educator in the broadest sense of the word. He has come
to galvanize and inspire humanity to change direction, to create a
world in which we can live together in peace. To do that, He says, is
simple: it requires us to see ourselves as brothers and sisters of one
humanity, sharing the world’s resources together. He says that we
either share or die. We must see the resources of the world as
belonging to everybody, and redistribute them according to need. In
this way, we will create justice in the world for the first time,
because without sharing, there will be no justice, without justice,
there will be no peace. Today, without peace, there would be no world;
we would destroy the world. Maitreya has come to inspire and guide us
to create the conditions in which humanity will not only survive, but
go on to create a brilliant civilization based on a spiritual way of
life. We will create a new civilization, as He would say, worthy of
the gods that we are.
From the July/August
1993 issue of Share International